tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post13906438111834484..comments2024-03-11T03:55:02.214-05:00Comments on Coffee with the Hermit: Time For A Wake Up Call...!HermitJimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13631580830147175636noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-42914386620761632562009-09-19T03:25:19.215-05:002009-09-19T03:25:19.215-05:00Suddenly it seemes I had a twelve year vacation wh...Suddenly it seemes I had a twelve year vacation when I went to school :-) :-) :-)<br /><br />I might have managed to get an ok on the geography, but the rest :-) :-) :-)<br />Have a great day now!<br />Christer.The cottage by the Cranelakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521318192039394408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-6148079767996573112009-09-18T23:35:43.556-05:002009-09-18T23:35:43.556-05:00Hey Stephanie...
I appreciate all the information!...Hey Stephanie...<br />I appreciate all the information! That helps to understand all this a little more...<br /><br />I really do appreciate you coming by and teaching us something!HermitJimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13631580830147175636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-4544833523273239022009-09-18T19:40:24.747-05:002009-09-18T19:40:24.747-05:00From reading Laura Ingalls Wilder's books &...From reading Laura Ingalls Wilder's books & others I'd say none of the teachers taught to the test. The questions about pecks & bushels would be very valuable to farmers and would be something children might have learned by helping the folks. Also, it was possible to move ahead in one area - say maths and stay behind in another. <br /><br />My Dad went to a one room schoolhouse, he said it was considered a plus if a little kid could answer a question that a big kid could not. He said what was great about the situation was kids could hear "advanced" lessons so they could see why they needed to learn such-and-such. Students heard the lessons over several years so that by the time they were the big kids there wasn't much of a reason not to know most of the answers. And if you missed a section of school due to sickness (say scarlet fever) well it would be taught again next year to a new class & you could get what you missed - if you hadn't already heard it a few times already.<br /><br />From a learning styles viewpoint - kids heard the teacher, wrote on the blackboard & spoke most of their answers. All the styles were covered and the more ways of leaning involved (hearing, speaking, movement) the better new information is retained.<br /><br />Remember too most people did not graduate - having an 8th grade education is not the same as being an 8th grade graduate. And orthography is like spelling and phonics mixed together. Etymology is where the word came from (Greek, Latin, Old English), syllabication is dividing it into syllables. A caret 'u' is a way of pronouncing a 'u' sound. picture a tiny upside down v over that 'u'. If you read the either "Litte Town on the Prairie" or "The Long Winter" Laura wrote down this portion of her teacher's exam and how she answered.<br /><br />I really think this is the test for people who want to be given teacher's certificates during this time in the American West. Oh - I learned about the orthography stuff when I was homeschooling my learning disabled son. Oldtime stuff works great but there sure were a lot of new words to look up (this test is full of them). Today's teachers have to teach manners, social skills, basic hygiene, global warming, other trendy necessities, keep troublemakers in school and make sure to keep parents happy - well who has time to teach real academics. No wonder most teachers quit before 5 years. (even me - on 12 yr leave from a BSE in Biology/Math & English)Stephanie in ARhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05117946992633230458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-69000054634636822722009-09-18T17:14:34.051-05:002009-09-18T17:14:34.051-05:00Hey Off Grid...
I've always had a hard time wi...Hey Off Grid...<br />I've always had a hard time with skool as well! Must be sumthin' we missed sumwhere!<br /><br />hey, thanks for coming by!HermitJimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13631580830147175636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-73199430317299591542009-09-18T17:02:00.450-05:002009-09-18T17:02:00.450-05:00After reading the test all I can say is HUH?
an...After reading the test all I can say is HUH?<br /><br />anyways this country was built to its greatest so far by men who didnt even get passed the 5th grade. <br /><br />I have a millionaire friend who quit skool in the 5th grade. and he can spell skool better than me too.<br /><br /><br />IF your a kid and reading this, this doesnt apply to you. In this day and age you have to have a college diploma in order to get a job at burger king, not quite but almost.<br />So stay in skool or you will spell skool like this and some guy wont hire you because he thinks you kant spell. lol have a good weeken JimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-59273114462566208522009-09-18T15:02:26.864-05:002009-09-18T15:02:26.864-05:00Hey Diane...
Don't worry...you are in good com...Hey Diane...<br />Don't worry...you are in good company! I didn't fare well in it myself!<br /><br />Thanks for the visit!<br /><br /><br />Hey Dragon...<br />Some of these questions were pretty tough for me...so now I don't feel too bad!<br /><br />Thanks for comingt by, Dragon!HermitJimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13631580830147175636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-75671076971971981512009-09-18T14:36:02.227-05:002009-09-18T14:36:02.227-05:00I just went over it again...I could only answer ab...I just went over it again...I could only answer about half, That makes me feel like a dummy and That ain't easy to do...Dragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02127473453909413019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-13447936763927032812009-09-18T13:33:59.847-05:002009-09-18T13:33:59.847-05:00This comment is short & sweet...I got an "...This comment is short & sweet...I got an "F". <br />Great post.DianeLynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14628360972411230549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-68523011886838999602009-09-18T11:17:01.527-05:002009-09-18T11:17:01.527-05:00Hey Wyn...
Thanks for this link, my friend!
And ...Hey Wyn...<br />Thanks for this link, my friend! <br /><br />And thank you for stopping by as well!HermitJimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13631580830147175636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-23546345847674934882009-09-18T11:00:54.290-05:002009-09-18T11:00:54.290-05:00http://www.barefootsworld.net/1895examcomp.html
a...http://www.barefootsworld.net/1895examcomp.html<br /><br />answer keyWyn Bonifacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07202722475742406305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-42136247512254059502009-09-18T10:38:41.954-05:002009-09-18T10:38:41.954-05:00Hey Catman...
You make some valid points! I can re...Hey Catman...<br />You make some valid points! I can remember when I was in school, we had courses like "social studies" and "health"...they even taught how to dress for a job interview and how to count out change!<br /><br />Pretty evident how successful today's education is toward indoctrination when a large number of today's students can't even recite the pledge of allegiance or the bill of rights!<br /><br />Hey, thanks for coming by today!HermitJimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13631580830147175636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-68482280563807131672009-09-18T10:26:58.666-05:002009-09-18T10:26:58.666-05:00Morning Jim,
There is a problem with looking back...Morning Jim,<br /><br />There is a problem with looking back on tests from a bygone era.<br /><br />In order to fully understand them, one has to take them in the full context of society as it existed at that time.<br /><br />I know these tests have surfaced from time to time in order to assail modern public education and teachers. However, to be quite fair, public education was instituted to create capable workers for factories and the movement away from an agrarian to an industrial society.<br /><br />Public education has kept in step with their role to indoctrinate and produce barely capable automatons for our post industrial society.<br /><br />An example would be the cash registers at fast food joints having numbers that correspond to "meal" choices and the people who have problems navigating such a seemingly easy path to completing a simple task.<br /><br />The ones who are capable of more than just menial tasks are separated out early, and subjected to even heavier doses of indoctrination.<br /><br />If you have a child or grandchild in public school, I urge you to take one of their books and thumb through it one evening.<br /><br />It is not what you were taught when you were their age.Catmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15910838062037114633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-43645301109116923202009-09-18T10:18:23.657-05:002009-09-18T10:18:23.657-05:00Hey Ranger...
Good point about some students memor...Hey Ranger...<br />Good point about some students memorizing the answers! Also, a good point about the pressing issues facing them in those days!<br /><br />With so much of the emphasis on education now days, I wonder if a good course in "common sense" would be a good thing...but can you really teach that in school? Better learned at home...or better yet, be self taught!<br /><br />Thanks for coming by today!<br /><br /><br />Hey Vlad...<br />I'm afraid I'll have to own up to the fact that I am a fairly ignorant man, by some of the questions asked on this test!<br /><br />But then, I never was the brightest bulb in the pack!<br /><br />Hey, thanks for the visit today, my friend!<br /><br /><br />Hey Marion...<br />You'll have to let us know just what your daughter says about the test and the answers!<br /><br />I would think it would make an excellent lesson plan for the day! Something to consider!<br /><br />Thyank you so much for coming by to chat for a bit!HermitJimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13631580830147175636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-74695147602008494072009-09-18T10:09:11.392-05:002009-09-18T10:09:11.392-05:00Thank you for this post. I'm sending the link ...Thank you for this post. I'm sending the link to my daughter who teaches 8th grade. Maybe she'll know the answers,lol.Marionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00607220451457829777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-36111903986882778912009-09-18T09:54:24.955-05:002009-09-18T09:54:24.955-05:00I am not smarter than an eighth grader.I am not smarter than an eighth grader.vladhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00434296343159953900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-25211929961743808722009-09-18T09:53:13.819-05:002009-09-18T09:53:13.819-05:00As always sir, a great post. I think the real thi...As always sir, a great post. I think the real things missing from public education are 1) common sense; and 2) practical skills. Neither are emphasized and in fact, both are shunned by modern education.<br /><br />I wonder how much they "taught to the test" in 1895 though? I'd wager that a fair amount of the kids who passed that final had just memorized the answers without really understanding them. They had more important and pressing issues to deal with in 1895 than the "epochs" of U.S. history...like getting the harvest in and earning some money to help the family pay for food.<br /><br />On the other hand, they also didn't have cell phones and the internet to distract them, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-81659858549975357492009-09-18T09:08:37.089-05:002009-09-18T09:08:37.089-05:00Hey Cath...
I'm afraid that if I were you, I&#...Hey Cath...<br />I'm afraid that if I were you, I'd pull my girl out of public school and hone school her if I could! I have many blogging friends that home school...and they swear by it.<br /><br />To heck with the fact that they want to teach her to "socialize" effectively...she can learn that from siblings, cousins, close friends and at the playground from other kids!<br /><br />In my opinion, the really important education should be from the parents...teaching the children the value of truth, religion, manners, honesty, all the values that were important to us growing up and that will help them get through life on a daily basis.<br /><br />Thanks so much for dropping by today!<br /><br /><br />Hey Anon 7:19...<br />Hard to believe, isn't it? Guess we need to go back and rethink our idea of what a real education is!<br /><br />Thanks for coming by the patio this morning!<br /><br /><br />Hey Sis...<br />Yes, it is! I thank you for sending me this piece...it will be food for a lot of discussion...as you can tell from the comments so far!<br /><br />Sorry that I didn't give the credit to you for sending me this...guess I owe you an extra hug, huh?<br /><br />Thanks for the visit, Sis!<br /><br /><br />Hey K...<br />You are priceless, my friend! You make me smile...I could almost see you, waving your hand in the air, saying "oh, oh, oh...I know!"<br /><br />Thanks for making me smile this morning! Also, thanks for the visit!<br /><br /><br />Hey JoJo...<br />I guess that if we are smart enough to make friends with one another, then we are smart enough, huh?<br /><br />I'm sure that you were a great influence on your kids...and maybe you can teach me a thing or two!<br /><br />I sure appreciate you coming over today, sweetie!HermitJimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13631580830147175636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-62105923439379601472009-09-18T08:41:13.787-05:002009-09-18T08:41:13.787-05:00Good morning my Special One,
Stop the room from sp...Good morning my Special One,<br />Stop the room from spinning. I guess back then when it was all about growing your crops to survive you had to know some of this stuff. But the history and I love history, I was dumbfounded. And we both now my grammar is of little use to anyone. I was the one who sat in the back of the room not to raise her hand but to hide. Oh well I made up for most of it so I could teach my kids.JoJonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-24838312050575512802009-09-18T08:02:08.885-05:002009-09-18T08:02:08.885-05:00Oh, oh, I know the answer to Team Hall's quest...Oh, oh, I know the answer to Team Hall's question!!<br /><br />Yes, I was the kid in back of the class who always had her dang hand up to answer questions, irritating her classmates and garnering more than one ES&D look for it. :-)<br /><br />I won't spoil the funf, though...and I only know because when I lived in NH, I tapped trees and made syrup myself. Makes you appreciate that liquid gold! I still love maple sugar candy...<br /><br />Shade and Sweetwater,<br />KKyddrynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07668797984157146798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-79577491391598836782009-09-18T07:30:51.542-05:002009-09-18T07:30:51.542-05:00Pretty scary how little we know, huh?Pretty scary how little we know, huh?Baby Sisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-67710970880482749062009-09-18T07:19:58.268-05:002009-09-18T07:19:58.268-05:00And all of this without the internet - I feel pret...And all of this without the internet - I feel pretty dumb myself!<br /><br />Have a good weekend HermitJim.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-85343382863231419982009-09-18T06:08:40.740-05:002009-09-18T06:08:40.740-05:00Morning Jim! This post is fantastic!! You know, ...Morning Jim! This post is fantastic!! You know, my big girl(6) and I "played" school until she was diagnosed with Autism. "They" were horrified that we were actually homeschooling and felt it was better for her to go to mainstream school so we sent her. Well, she's now in Grade 1 and she's still NOT learning more than when we "played" at it. <br />I was told this week that they weren't interested in pushing her academically...she's a bright girl and would pick it up along the way. They are more interested in helping her socialize!!! ARrrgh!<br />Sorry Jim, didn't mean to get started...now I'm going to need something stronger in my coffee! lol<br />Have a fabulous day! Oh and if you can tell me how many gallons of sap it takes to make 1 gallon of syrup, I'll get yah a buttertart with your coffee! heheTEAM HALLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315068954713028451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-16751553425633012922009-09-18T01:04:37.399-05:002009-09-18T01:04:37.399-05:00Hey K...
Personally, I think it's a good thing...Hey K...<br />Personally, I think it's a good thing that you home school...certainly a better alternative than public!<br /><br />I'm amazed that you are so smart, as well as being a good cook! Multi-talented woman, you are!<br /><br />Thanks for the visit today!HermitJimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13631580830147175636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2474304103076898115.post-82011152657010439882009-09-18T00:45:53.058-05:002009-09-18T00:45:53.058-05:00Well Mister Hermit, sir, I figure I could answer t...Well Mister Hermit, sir, I figure I could answer twelve of those questions in part and sixteen in full...almost none of them from arithmetic, because I wouldn't know a bushel from a peck and a paper of pins (points for obscure song reference??).<br /><br />I don't know if it's frightening or a good thing that I'm home schooling...but I DO think it's a better choice than the other options available to us here. <br /><br />I wonder what sorts of things we know now that our grandchildren will find baffling and/or boggling when they look back at our educations?<br /><br />Shade and Sweetwater,<br />KKyddrynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07668797984157146798noreply@blogger.com